Skip to content
Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Sunday in Outer Blogness: broken promises Edition!

chanson, November 9, 2008November 9, 2011

Yep, I promised I’d stop talking about the election once it was over. But — doggonit — the good people of Outer Blogness had posted a whole lot of follow-up commentary this past week, and I’m here to round it up for you.

First, some favorite quotes: On Obama getting elected: “it’s like every not so popular group in high school turning on the football players and cheerleaders, led by a debate team nerd.” On people claiming that Bush got an unfair shake: “And yes, most people don’t have to deal with these things, but most people =/= heads of nations.” On the grand irony of Mormons pushing for proposition 8: “Pot calls Kettle black…and Pot wins. This time.” Then there’s this statement that, frankly, the church should be ashamed of. It’s summed up pretty well here:

Shockingly, the church finds the protest “disturbing” and objects to being “singled out” for exercising its right to free speech. Well, here’s a news flash. When you, a large tax-exempt religious institution, claim that your leaders speak for God and then mobilize your membership by telling them that they need to vote in a certain way on a particular political proposition regarding the civil issue of same-sex marriage… you’re going to get singled out.

You can’t have it both ways. On the one hand, you call this issue your “Gettysburg”, read letters about Prop 8 from the pulpit, call for donations and volunteers, organize call chains, and generally make it felt that every member of your religious organization in the state of California is expected to sacrifice for the cause of taking away others’ right to marry. On the other hand, you act surprised and hurt when those whose rights have been stripped become angry, members of your own church actively voice their disapproval, and thousands of protesters show up at your doorstep to protest your coordination of this exercise in codifying discrimination into law. Pardon my candor, but what the hell did you expect?

Other reactions are found here, here, and here. My personal theory is that they decided to make a statement that is so over-the-top childish and hypocritical in hopes that the civil rights folks would respond in a frenzy of outrage so that the church can do some more pretending to be the victim while acting as the aggressor.

Anyway, on to more free speech and democracy in action: the demonstration at Temple Square! Craig posted a whole series of photos, and even got interviewed for the news! BCC offers images in words from the demonstration. For pictures and words style coverage, see the story here.

As for reactions to the election itself, Equality sums up the prop. 8 folks’ induction into the hall of shame. A lot of people are rethinking their relationship with the church: here, here, here, here, and here. Others are trying to figure out what to do next: here, here, and here.

And let’s close with a few poetic words of thanks and comfort for those that were hurt by this loss of full citizenship and rights.

Politics Rights Sunday in Outer Blogness

Post navigation

Previous post
Next post

Related Posts

Sunday in Outer Blogness: Money money money edition!!

January 15, 2017December 17, 2024

In case you missed it, Jeremy Runnells just won X-Mormon of the Year 2016, and the nominations for the Brodie Awards will continue until Thursday, January 19 — so get your final nominations in here! (Also note the Wheat & Tares blog is also collecting nominations for their yearly awards.)…

Read More

Easter Sunday in Outer Blogness!

April 23, 2011October 1, 2011

I’ve never quite committed to memory the algorithm for figuring out the date of Easter each year (other than “look on my calendar”). Anyway, it appears to be Easter here in Switzerland today, and probably elsewhere. Also, many people celebrated Earth Day as well. In the holiday spirit, it has…

Read More

Sunday in Outer Blogness: Late and Lite Edition!

June 5, 2011July 5, 2011

Hey folks! We had some sort of European holiday here, causing a long weekend, prompting a family visit to some other randomly-chosen-picturesque-European city — and I thought I’d be back in time to do SiOB on Sunday itself, but it didn’t happen. I saved up links all week, though, so…

Read More

Comments (4)

  1. Craig says:
    November 9, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Wow, that’s a lot of links to read.

    Yeah, getting interviewed for the channel 4 evening news was really exciting. I felt really happy that I was able to do just a little more to show others how unjust and harmful it is to force your religious beliefs on someone else through legislation.

    Reply
  2. chanson says:
    November 9, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Yeah, that was great that you got a chance to appear on the news to explain your position!

    Reply
  3. Pingback: Main Street Plaza » Peaceful Protest and Civil Dialog
  4. Pingback: Sunday in Outer Blogness: Afterglow Edition! | Main Street Plaza

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Mormon Alumni Association Books

Brodie Awards!!!


X-Mormon of the Year!!

  • 2025: Rebecca Bibliotheca!!
  • 2024: Nemo the Mormon!!
  • 2023: Adam Steed!!
  • 2022: David Archuleta!!
  • 2021: Jeff T. Green!!
  • 2020: Jacinda Ardern!!
  • 2019: David Nielsen!!
  • 2018: Sam Young!!
  • 2017: Savannah!!
  • 2016: Jeremy Runnells!!
  • 2015: John Dehlin!!
  • 2014: Kate Kelly!!
  • 2013: J. S. Anderson & M. Ferguson!!
  • 2012: David Twede!!
  • 2011: Joanna Brooks!!
  • 2010: Monica Bielanko!!
  • 2009: Walter Kirn!!

  1. Holly on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    My pleasure!

  2. chanson on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    Oh, and BTW -- thanks for inspiring this discussion and double thanks for joining in!!

  3. Holly on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    Wow. Words fail.

  4. chanson on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    Regarding the contempt, I read an anecdote on some exLDS facebook group a while ago that really stuck with me:…

  5. Donna Banta on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 9, 2026

    Great point at the end, Holly. So that was Pres. Nelson's take on "Man is that he might have joy."…

8: The Mormon Proposition Acceptance of Gays Add new tag Affirmation angry exmormon awards Book Reviews BYU comments Dallin H. Oaks DAMU disaffected mormon underground Dustin Lance Black Ex-Mormon Exclusion policy Excommunicated exmormon faith Family feminism Gay Gay Love Gay Marriage Gay Relationships General Conference Happiness Homosexual Homosexuality LDS LGBT LGBTQ Link Bomb missionaries Modesty Mormon Mormon Alumni Association Mormonism motherhood peace politics Polygamy priesthood ban Secularism Sunstone temple

Subscribe


 

©2026 Main Street Plaza | WordPress Theme by SuperbThemes