Dirigo Blue: NOM loses at Appeals Court

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1. Where did you get that “Yes on 8” poster, Chino?

2. Chino — Did you do the graphic? Fabulous!

3. I think I poached that graphic from Guy Murray’s blog. No idea who created it. Random Prop 8 oppo research find that I used and forgot, until Ralph’s post at T&S came along. By the way, should the guy waving the banner be that pale, or is that what’s politely called an “anachronism” ??

4. Well, it definitely illustrates Ralph’s post. 😉

5. Here’s another thing I don’t get … Why is it always “James Madison this” and “John Adams that” when it comes to naming these outfits?

   If Public Affairs is what you’re about, why not show Edward Bernays a little respect and use his name?

6. Chino (#3): I believe the term you’re looking for is “white and delightsome.” 😉

7. So, Chino, what was Prof. Hancock like? The remark of his quoted below really disturbed me, as he really seems to believe that scary gay people will hurt him personally.

   “As you have probably noticed, this comment by the good Professor “In the long run, the victory of the homosexual-rights faction would be incompatible with the religious freedom of those who oppose such rights the freedom, for example, to teach ones children that homosexuality is wrong and not conducive to ultimate happiness, or to run a private university in which the practice of homosexuality is grounds for dismissing a student or an employee.”

   Naming his faith-based center after a deist with no love for Christianity just amuses me, but makes me wonder about, I don’t know, his, uh, competence?

8. This group of us, all former students, all remember him as a great teacher. He brought a lot of energy to class and made himself available to students. Even back then, though, half of what he’d say would make me want to pull my hair out.

   I’m guessing Prof. Hancock didn’t decide on the name. That was probably Matthew Holland’s call. After giving up his NOM board seat to Orson Scott Card, Holland needed a new anti-gay outfit to direct, and it looks like he’s found it. And apparently Hancock is out to become the Mormon Robby George, although that ugly T&S post of his reads more like George Rekers.

9. By the way, a scary gay person just tweeted me:

   MidtownNY: @ChinoBlanco Bravo to all who commented. Simply, I want people like your prof to pursue his life, liberty & happiness while I pursue mine.

   So, there’s a bravo for you, djinn.

10. djinn — It doesn’t sound like he’s actually afraid, it sounds like he’s grasping at straws’o’crazy:

    the freedom, for example, to teach ones children that homosexuality is wrong and not conducive to ultimate happiness

    You can teach your kids whatever they please. I should hope I wouldn’t have to explain to a professor the problem with expecting the government to protect your kids from encountering information — outside your home — that contradicts your beliefs.

    or to run a private university in which the practice of homosexuality is grounds for dismissing a student or an employee

    Ah, so now employers firing employees for non-work-related ideological reasons has been elevated to a “freedom”…?

    It just reminds me of Oakes talk. The closest thing they had to real discrimination against Mormon supporters of Prop. 8 was an unsubstantiated claim that someone was fired over it. I hope that the good professor is consistent about it, and is ready to stand up for that (probably fictional) business owner’s “freedom” as well. Otherwise, I hope he’ll grant that an employer’s right to discriminate is one of the “rights” that falls into this category:

    Rights are obviously never absolute; they are necessarily limited by some shared, authoritative priorities, some implicit understanding of the good.”