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So is Warren Jeffs still the (FLDS) prophet or what?

chanson, December 15, 2007October 20, 2010

To help answer this question, a Deseret Morning News article asks (my brother) John Hamer for his analysis. John is a historian specializing in the various scisms within the restoration movement and is the co-editor of Scattering of the Saints: Schism within Mormonism.

In addition to clarifying this issue, John gives some reasonable analysis regarding the public face of Mormonism:

As for whether the move will help erase continuing public confusion outside the Intermountain West over the relationship between Jeffs, his church and the LDS Church, Hamer said he believes there’s an opportunity now to educate people that “there is more than one kind of Mormon. You have fundamentalists and you have the mainstream LDS Church. I think it’s actually helpful to explain that to non-Mormons.”

Denying that fundamentalist LDS members are Mormons “just helps inflame the confusion,” he said. “Since 9/11, Americans are now able to understand there’s more than one kind of Muslim — Shiites and Sunnis — and they disagree in many ways. In the same way, I think there is the ability for the public at large to understand there’s more than one kind of Mormon.”

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Comments (3)

  1. Hellmut says:
    December 15, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    Thanks for informing us about the interview. I was wondering how a prophet can possibly resign. I also agree that the attempts of the PR machine to deny the label Mormon to fundamentalists were even more lame than evangelicals and charismatics trying to deny the label Christian to Mormons.

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  2. chanson says:
    December 16, 2007 at 3:41 am

    Yeah, I can understand why LDS Inc. doesn’t want to be associated with FLDS Inc., but the problem is that the FLDS people do indeed exist (and get in the news). Pretending the two religions aren’t descended from the same root just confuses people and makes it looks like the LDS P.R. machine is all about denying reality.

    John’s comparison with Muslims — noting that non-Muslims can understand the relationships and differences between Shiites and Sunnis — is a good way of looking at it, IMHO.

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  3. Guy Noir Private Eye says:
    December 16, 2007 at 7:28 am

    all these things (IF they thought about it) don’t make sense. to humble (yeah, O.K., I hear ya)ol me, it’s as if COB doesn’t think these things ALL the way thru. Keeping silent is soooooooooooo very difficult to do, isn’t it?

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