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Sunday in Outer Blogness: Community Membership Edition!

chanson, July 1, 2012

So, how many of you here joined in this year’s mass resignation from the CoJCoL-dS? It made quite a stir in the press!!

In that other touchy Mormon statistic (money), Mike S came up with an intriguing strategy:

NOTE: If you use Church accounting practices, you could NOT pay tithing each year, but just invest it so that someday when you DO pay tithing, you can pay even MORE. Kind of like they do with humanitarian aid where they invest money in billion dollar malls NOW so someday they can do something useful with even more money.

Meanwhile, the Bloggernacle is abuzz with analysis of Daniel Peterson’s recent fall from grace. Was the shake-up a good thing or a bad thing? What does it mean for the future (and history) of Mormon apologetics?

Are Mormons Christian or not? It can be upsetting to be excluded, whether for heretical doctrines or for being a stranger in a stranger land or for being an oxymoron (gay and Mormon):

Once, years ago, one of my stories published in a Mormon magazine was nominated for a Whitney award sponsored by the Association for Mormon Letters. But none of my work since then even gets so much as a review. Why? Because theyve discovered Im no longer Mormon.

One of the eligibility requirements for AML is that only Mormon literature written by Mormons is worth considering. The Book of Mormon musical might win a Tony, but it will never win a Whitney. It doesnt count.

Of course some are making it work — just check out the photos of Mormons marching in Pride parades!!

(Plus see these other allies — and see Thmazing’s solution to the Mormons vs. marriage problem.)

Our own community is growing, though! First, please visit this new blog from one of our authors here! And Kuri’s back in action!

A lot of people seem to be struggling this week, though: remembering an abusive relationship, disturbing childhood memories (and some perhaps relevant parenting analysis), dealing with being shunned, learning that talk is cheap…unless you’re talking to a therapist, family health problems, dropping out of school, drowning in phlegm, feeling frustrated with the CoJCoL-dS, and generally having a less-than-satisfying day. Folks, I have never seen so many struggling posts in a single week in all my years of doing SiOB — so please visit each others’ blogs and spread the virtual hugs around!!

And check out this great counter-move to the people who insist that motherhood is a full-time job — if and only if your husband is paying for it.

In books, here’s a review of the 19th wife, plus Natalie Collins has some new books out.

Some of the discussions were church related, like this whole new site on Mormons and masturbation. Mindy is applying the “Fake it till you make it” strategy. Dan contemplates the futility of indexing work for the dead, and the other Daniel remembers his first failed rapture. Mormon411 has some ideas for getting the Mormons off your porch. Lifelongguy is remembering Helen Mar Kimball. And don’t miss these terrors of Testimony Meeting!

Happy reading!! 😀

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Comments (3)

  1. Alan says:
    July 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Good Salon article by Troy Williams summarizing the current moment.

    Historians may determine that it was not actually Romney who pulled Mormonism into the mainstream but rather the very people Boyd Packer once viewed as their greatest threat those troublesome intellectuals, feminists and gays.

    My only complaint is that there’s no mention of Mormons for Marriage Equality — only Mormons Building Bridges. I’ve heard through the grapevine that the editors pulled mention of M4ME (and Affirmation) for some reason. O_o

    Edit: Maybe it was just a basic editorial chop, and there’s not really any significance…

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  2. postmormongirl says:
    July 1, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Those were some heart-breaking stories – I guess it was a tough week for people in Outer Blogness. And I will confess to being a bit confused about all of this Peterson’s kerfuffle but I think that’s because (a) I’ve never lived in Utah and (b) I left as a teenager. All this Utah culture stuff really makes my head spin at times.

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  3. chanson says:
    July 2, 2012 at 4:05 am

    @1 Very cool! Crazily enough, I didn’t know about Troy Williams’s blog. I’ll have to add him to Outer Blogness.

    @2 No doubt! That’s nice that you took the time to offer support to various bloggers. 😀

    Reply

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