Even Australia

PROVO, Utah (ABC 4 News) – A senior at BYU who is studying to be a doctor finds himself in the middle of the heated debate over same sex marriage and California’s Proposition 8.

The Daily Universe & Censorship.

Cary Crall and Morris Thurston on Proposition 8 and BYU Censorship.

At BYU, now you see it, now you dont.

Chino Blanco

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4 Responses

  1. Craig says:

    I’m glad this incident is getting so much attention. BYU deserves to be ridiculed and seen as the backwards, authoritarian, McCarthyist place it truly is.

  2. Alan says:

    “Even Australia,” lol.

    As far as I can gather, this started when one of the lawyers that defended Prop 8 gave a presentation at BYU and gave nothing but hypocritical and stumbling answers to students’ probing questions. For example, “How does same-sex marriage hurt opposite sex marriage?” When he said it doesn’t, a lot of people in the room were shocked. Also, I guess a question was asked about gay couples rearing children (and I guess it’s known even among BYU students that the children turn out fine) — doesn’t it hurt the children if the parents can’t be married? Yeah, but the guy ranted in a different direction.

    So, I gather that the editorial was a follow-up to this bumbling presentation. It probably wasn’t the just the student speaking on his own, but on behalf other other students’ sentiments, too. When people actually go read Judge Walker’s decision, a lot of things click for them. Yes, it sounds reductive to say “Mormons supported Prop 8 because their prophet told them to,” but if you believe in a separation of church and state (which most Mormons do, is my understanding), and non-religious arguments that you thought were accurate you come to find out hold no water, then what else are you supposed to deduce?

  3. Urban Koda says:

    I’m actually enjoying this whole thing… When I posted something against prop 8 on Facebook 2 years ago, a family member got really upset with me. I then asked her reasoning, stating that I felt that the decision should entail more than simply following the prophet. She got terribly offended that I would insinuate that she was simply following the prophet like a blind sheep and began several posts of completely useless and irrational arguments. Eventually it boiled down to her telling me that I had made covenants in the temple, and that I was obligated to follow them… OK Then!!

  4. j-dog says:

    Okay, maybe i need to write about this cause i know Cary, or at least know some of his friends and have met him and talked to him on a few occasions. I love that this is exploding.

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