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8: The Mormon Proposition

Chino Blanco, October 19, 2009October 20, 2010


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Comments (2)

  1. Holly says:
    October 20, 2009 at 6:59 am

    the statement that “it’s better to be dead than homosexual” leapt out at me. It’s a statement that has been made often enough by Mormons, and been heard often enough by gay Mormons.

    Factor that statement in to what’s going on in the “Bring Them in From the Plains” video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipXyQGCtCtk
    and any claim that the Mormon church does not advocate violence against gays becomes completely disingenuous. The church has advocated and in some ways still DOES advocate violence against gay people–it’s just that it advocates SELF-INFLICTED violence. Plenty of gay Mormons have gotten the message: it’s better to be dead–even by your own hand–than be gay.

    So until the church atones for that, and frankly even after, it will have far more blood on its hands in this matter than gay rights advocates. A few spray-painted churches don’t even compare.

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  2. chanson says:
    October 20, 2009 at 7:29 am

    This is a bit of a tangent, but I hadn’t seen that “Bring Them in From the Plains video before. The Martin and Willie handcart company example gives a good illustration of a constructive path towards reconciliation.

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    My pleasure!

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    Oh, and BTW -- thanks for inspiring this discussion and double thanks for joining in!!

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