Sunday in Outer Blogness:

It’s been a slow week in Mormon news. The biggest item seems to be that you can now pay your tithing online (though you still can’t keep the amount confidential from your local leaders). Remember, tithing is basically the most important thing to do. Oh, and don’t criticize the leaders, especially not with funny memes.

Still no moral guidance from the prophet on complicated issues like race riots, but — to be fair — everyone knows the public would rather hear about lighter issues. OTOH, apparently the president of UVU has lent his name to a questionable amicus brief in the gay marriage case before the Supreme Court.

There’s a painting of Jane Manning in the new Payson Temple — which, presumably, is to highlight the CoJCoL-dS’s racial inclusiveness — but you’d think that if they had any sense, they’d realize that this is the last story they want to draw attention to:

So Jane was denied the same blessings given those of a paler complexion. However after these many requests she was eventually allowed to be sealed to Joseph as a servant in the next life. Think about that and look at how Joe viewed servants in the biblical sense in his own letter. Servants to these men were equivalent to slaves to their masters.

In a related case of please just stop embarrassing yourselves, BYU is publicizing a study showing that you can identify Mormons by their skin quality.

No news from FreeBYU, but enjoy this cartoon.

In this week’s gospel doctrine lesson we learn that Jesus’ own answer for why bad things happen to people who don’t deserve them is even worse than the usual apologetic excuses:

The disciples think that this misfortune is God’s retribution for sin. Well, thank goodness Jesus is going to put that notion out of their heads, right?

9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.


Think about that. For his entire life, this man has lived without sight, and for what? So he can sit there when Jesus comes along, get healed, and show everyone how great God is.

Plus there’s another copious batch of commandments. And Andrew Hackman learned some interesting things from a documentary about hell.

Thinker of Thoughts has been analyzing the accusations that the Mormon Expositor contained lies, Mormonism 101 posted some analysis of one of the first vision accounts, and Meg Stout is continuing her popular “My Joseph” speculative fiction series.

In life journeys, Mary Ellen Robertson is leaving Sunstone after many years of fantastic service — good luck on all your future endeavors. So Says Me faced the death of a loved one, and Kelsey S. also shared some thoughts about dealing with the death of a loved one when you don’t believe in an afterlife:

I can’t stand that they get to be so naive to think that after a person has died and been embalmed or cremated that the spirit that used to be their grandmother or their dog is up in the clouds waiting to see them again. That their soul and spirit lives on until you can go meet them in heaven and see their cool mansion and unlimited happiness. I think they believe in things that are unrealistic and childish. It’s like the thought of death has made them want to go back to when they were innocent children and run to daddy and ask why everything can’t be perfect and why they can’t be shielded like when they were young. I hate that I have to cry myself to sleep 60% of the time because I know that I will never see that person again, ever. All I have left is material possessions, memories, and pictures.

Holly (Domestic Dork) is dealing with more fallout from the life-advice she got as a young person in the CoJCoL-dS:

I do want to say that I don’t blame Adam personally for how things ended. His contributions to the breakdown of our relationship can be placed squarely on the church’s shoulders, as can mine. And let’s face it, two young adults, little more than kids, getting married within four months of meeting without any opportunity to explore intimate compatibility because they’ve been brainwashed to believe anything more than basic kissing is sinful, second only to murder, is a recipe for disaster.

In other church-related discussion, Diane Tingen has a new Hymn parody and the Exponent has been doing a series on Heavenly Mother’s Day.

In random stuff, Froggey posted some beautiful photos of doors. Adult Onset Atheist has been doing a a series of reviews of the Hugo Awards situation — very entertaining, making me feel tempted to get a membership so I could vote, but I don’t have time to read all the nominations myself.

For myself, I’ve had a rather eventful week, but nothing I can really report to the Internets. At least there’s always the fun and relaxing task of reading the news from Mormon-land online! Enjoy! 😀

** Edit: a must-read that was just mailed to me: Sean and Taylor respond to being called to a disciplinary council hearing over their marriage.


C. L. Hanson is the friendly Swiss-French-American ExMormon atheist mom living in Switzerland! Follow me on mastadon at or see "letters from a broad" for further adventures!!

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4 Responses

  1. visitor says:

    Thanks for sharing Taylor’s letter. Since his blog doesn’t offer an option to respond can I say here:


    Yes, you are honorably and morally and bravely and authentically right. And, yes, the church needs to hear this in such direct and unapologetic language.

    Good luck and a happy life to both of you!

    I hope Sean and Taylor will read that here. And I hope the church will come to appreciate the calibre of people they are abusing and forcing out to the church’s own detriment.

  2. knotty says:

    I did write a piece about why the church is a cult. It was in response to the many comments I’ve seen by church members who wonder why people think they are cult members.

  3. chanson says:

    @1 amen!

    @2 Thanks for the link — sorry I missed it the first time!

  4. Todd says:

    Thanks Knotty – awesome link – sad stuff…

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