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Sunday in Outer Blogness: Clash of Perspectives Edition!

chanson, March 7, 2010September 3, 2011

I have often heard the criticism that Latter-day Saints classify everyone who disagrees with our beliefs as “anti-Mormon.” Of course, the people who say this are usually anti-Mormons. Am I proving their point? I don’t think so.

— McKay Coppins, Mormon Times

Uh… How to begin to respond to such a claim…? Hey McKay, is it true you’ve stopped beating your wife?

Curmudgeon had some other comments for him. Or have a look at John Dehlin’s related comment:

The biggest exit barriers we have in the church are things like: labeling (anti-Mormon), shunning, ostratization, excommunication, etc.

(That was on J. Nelson-Seawright’s post about making exit from the church less attractive than staying. The equation is logical in principle, but it seems the problem is more on the other side, as people are made to feel unwelcome for even the mildest disagreements with official policy.)

Personally, I hate doing the whole earnest “Why are you being so mean to little me?” routine, but here in reality universe, people get immediately dismissed as “anti-Mormon” merely for admitting to being former Mormons. And if you dare to say anything remotely critical of the church, the debate will be about your character and motives, not on the validity of your claims. For example, take yesterday’s comments on an eight-month-old post.

I think the whole debating-the-other-belief-systems thing is not terribly interesting (I’d rather reminisce about our BYU adventures), but it was a theme in Outer Blogness this week, so let’s dive in. Christians challenge atheists. The non-religious warn us about the dangers of religion. Atheists take on the spiritual-not-religious and the atheism-is-faith guys and the BoM apologists and the mishies! (Then just try to identify themselves.)

Meanwhile, atheists-in-embryo write sweet letters to Mormon missionary grandparents. And in the reconciliation department, Dan tries for some middle ground, explaining that Mormonism works for some (but not all), while Sir Thomas More (or Less) sets out to defend the Mormons!

Wrapping up on a (more-or-less) totally unrelated note: if you’re in or near the Mormon corridor, don’t forget to support the Mormon Women Writers‘ “Our Voices, Our Visions” tour!! 😀

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  1. Andrew S says:
    March 7, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Sir Thomas More or less?

    This is such a great blog name! I need to start checking it out…

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  1. Holly on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    My pleasure!

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    Oh, and BTW -- thanks for inspiring this discussion and double thanks for joining in!!

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    Wow. Words fail.

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    Regarding the contempt, I read an anecdote on some exLDS facebook group a while ago that really stuck with me:…

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