We Were Asking for It

If you sew the wind, you shall reap the storm. If you live by the sword, you shall die by the sword.

It’s just sad.

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10 Responses

  1. MoHoHawaii says:

    I’m sad about this, too. The problem is that although this ad with missionaries as home-invading morals police is way over the top it effectively dramatizes the feeling of threat experienced by those whose marriages (!) are being eliminated.

    Long term, involvement in Prop. 8 is going to be a PR nightmare for the Church.

  2. Hellmut says:

    Thank, MoHohawaii. It’s a life disaster for me.

  3. truly confused says:

    Well, the Courage Campaign announced they will be airing this tomorrow on CNN, MSNBC and Comedy Central. Should be intresting.

  4. Hellmut says:

    During day time?

  5. Matt says:

    The fact that the church sees itself as a good sport and ads like this one as hitting below the belt is clear evidence that the church is totally incapable of seeing the effects of it’s actions on the lives of people. Hubris. Very sad.

  6. Truly Confused says:

    I am not sure what time. I am hoping to see one before I go to work….

  7. aerin says:

    I’ve heard about various protests outside of temples in California and Utah because of huge financial support of prop. 8 (members).

    This is an issue that people care deeply about.

    It’s hard to make the argument – I get to marry who I want, where I want but you do not.

  8. Blake says:

    Hellmut: The fact that you think that the Church takes a position on Proposition 8 justifies this kind of bigotry and misrepresentation says a great deal about your blind-spots. Do you really believe the actions of the Church justify this kind of crap and sheer fraud? I call on you to renounce it.

  9. chanson says:

    Do you really believe the actions of the Church justify this kind of crap and sheer fraud?

    What is “sheer fraud” about this? It is a dramatization of the fact that the LDS church would like to destroy the legal backing of the marriages of couples like the one depicted here. Is that false? Does the church deny actively working to render such marriage licenses invalid?

    Now, it’s possible that the Courage Campaign is deliberately trying to play on mistrust of Mormons with this ad. I talked about this in my post here. If the LDS church wants to lay down some ground rules for what’s not okay in terms of playing on people’s fear of minority groups such as gays or Mormons, and the LDS church would itself play fair on this count, then I’d be happy to denounce these guys if they failed to follow the church’s good example of renouncing bigotry. Unfortunately, as it is, the church has taken a strong stand in favor of bigotry. So who are we to contradict the church’s pro-intolerance stance by complaining about this mild (and arguably reasonable) political satire directed at the Mormons?

  10. Hellmut says:

    This ad makes me very sad, Blake. It is unfortunate that it had to come so far.

    After we have raised 80% of the funds that enabled the success of Proposition 8, we need not be surprised if we become the target of criticism ourselves.

    You are abusing the term bigot. A bigot is somebody who fails to tolerate different religions or belief systems.

    An effort to legislate one’s religious views even though it impinges on the liberty of non-believers in the absence of harm constitutes intolerance and therefore bigotry.

    A demand for liberty is a demand for tolerance. It does not affect our ability to practice our religion.

    To refer to an effort to escape religious imposition as bigoted turns the meaning of the word upside down in an Orwellian fashion.

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