Skip to content
Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

The Conservative View of Marriage

Hellmut, August 27, 2008August 27, 2008

People who have sex shall be married.
Gays and lesbians have sex.
Therefore gays and lesbians need to get married.

Homosexuality Marriage

Post navigation

Previous post
Next post

Related Posts

We each have our reasons for staying or leaving

January 16, 2010January 17, 2010

I posted this elsewhere not too long ago, and it seemed to get positive feedback, so I thought I would share this experience here and get your thoughts about it. During a conversation with my wife in the car after meeting some fantastic believing/disaffected couples for dinner last week, I…

Read More

Final religious amicus brief on US same-sex marriage

April 26, 2015April 26, 2015

I’ve been following the same-sex marriage debate on the legal front since the days of Prop 8. In 2010, Judge Walker gave his damning ruling that “a gender restriction on marriage is nothing more than an artifact of a foregone notion that men and women fulfill different roles in civic…

Read More

One BYU professor’s quest to rescue prejudice from intellectual obloquy

June 16, 2010June 18, 2010

Ralph Hancock started his three-part series at Times & Seasons by sounding the gay threat alarm, but couldn’t be bothered to actually discuss the nature of the threat, apparently in a rush to get to his third post, in which it’s explained that the real danger lies in something called…

Read More

Comments (5)

  1. Matt says:
    August 27, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Obviously, Repubs are not conservatives.

    The Repub View of Marriage*:
    – People who have sex shall repress the truth about their sexual lives at all cost.
    – Repubs have sex.
    – Therefore Repubs are the “Family Values” Party.

    *Footnote: And since God controls marriage and hates gays and lesbians, he punishes his wayward children by demanding that they not have sex unless it’s Repub sex.

  2. Steven B says:
    August 27, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    But if we can prohibit gays and lesbians from getting married, then they will stop having sex. Right?

    Seriously though, that marriage would encourage responsible sex is but one aspect of the “conservative” view. There are many good reasons to argue for extending marriage to same-sex couples that should rationally appeal to social conservatives.

    Just yesterday, a study was released which indicates that legalized same-sex couple relationships appear to be longer-lasting than those without a legal status. This was based on studies in Vermont during the five years where same-sex civil unions have been legal there.

    One conservative offered the following hypothetical:

    An 8-year-old goes to play at the house of his friend, who is raised by two lesbian women. The environment is a loving one. So this playmate, whose straight parents are married, is going to absorb one of two possible norms.

    1) My friend lives in a happy home. His parents are married. When people grow up and love each other, and want to have kids and a happy home, they get married. (I hope I get married one day.)
    Or
    2) My friend lives in a happy home. His parents aren’t married. When people grow up and love each other, and want to have kids and a happy home, sometimes they get married like my parents. Other times they don’t get married, like my friend’s parents. (One day I may get married and have kids, but maybe I’ll just have kids and live with the person I love.)

    Conservatives should prefer the former scenario.

  3. Hellmut says:
    August 29, 2008 at 3:34 am

    That’s a clever argument, Steven. I never considered that a happy but discriminated gay family may undermine marriage in the eyes of an observant child.

  4. Hellmut says:
    August 29, 2008 at 3:41 am

    I agree, Matt. With a few exceptions, most Republican elected officials are not conservatives. They are cronies and radicals. Their policies are not based on principle but on selfishness and resentment.

    That’s unfortunate because it is difficult to properly balance policy without a principled counter-voice.

    Like many other Europeans, I found libertarian rhetoric very appealing when I arrived in the United States. Arianna Huffington and Andrew Sullivan come to mind, for example. Like them, I have been compelled to move away from the Republican party.

  5. Chandelle says:
    August 29, 2008 at 10:52 am

    (#1)

    Dear god, save us from mandated Republican sex.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Mormon Alumni Association Books

Latest Comments:

  1. Jodi Peterson on Last Call for Nominations!!January 6, 2026

    I nominate Rebecca Bibliotheca for her coverage of LDS Temple building: Best Investigative Reporting I nominate RFM and Koloby (lol)…

  2. Rob Shiveley on Collecting Nominations for William Law X-Mormon of the Year 2025!!!January 6, 2026

    I stumbled across the YouTube channel by Kyson Dana. Really fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/@kysondana

  3. LDS Primary President Charged With Kissing Teen ! - Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup on Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!!January 6, 2026

    […] Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!! […]

  4. chanson on Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!!January 6, 2026

    Thanks for telling me! I'll fix it when I get home.

  5. Newscast Watcher on Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!!January 6, 2026

    Just so you know, the results for Best Overall LDS-Interest Social Media Personality 2025 are visible once you vote!

8: The Mormon Proposition Acceptance of Gays Add new tag Affirmation angry exmormon awards Book Reviews BYU comments Dallin H. Oaks DAMU disaffected mormon underground Dustin Lance Black Ex-Mormon Exclusion policy Excommunicated exmormon faith Family feminism Gay Gay Love Gay Marriage Gay Relationships General Conference Happiness Homosexual Homosexuality LDS LGBT LGBTQ Link Bomb missionaries Modesty Mormon Mormon Alumni Association Mormonism motherhood peace politics Polygamy priesthood ban Secularism Sunstone temple

Awards

William Law X-Mormon of the Year:

  • 2024: Nemo the Mormon
  • 2023: Adam Steed
  • 2022: David Archuleta
  • 2021: Jeff T. Green
  • 2020: Jacinda Ardern
  • 2019: David Nielsen
  • 2018: Sam Young
  • 2017: Savannah
  • 2016: Jeremy Runnells
  • 2015: John Dehlin
  • 2014: Kate Kelly
  • 2013: J. Seth Anderson and Michael Ferguson
  • 2012: David Tweede
  • 2011: Joanna Brooks
  • 2010: Monica Bielanko
  • 2009: Walter Kirn

Other Cool Sites!

WasMormon.org
©2026 Main Street Plaza | WordPress Theme by SuperbThemes