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Sunday in Outer Blogness: Thanksgiving Edition!

chanson, November 29, 2015

OK, so, it’s not a holiday here, but I hear many of you were celebrating some holiday involving lots of delicious recipes! Plus some thanking and some dangerous conversations with loved ones.

I’m just thankful that things have slowed down a bit. It’s getting to the point where a slow news week is one with only one or two terrorist attacks — this time from white males who chose to unlawfully use force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

This week’s thoughts on “the policy” include courage, new primary songs, revelations that call for others to sacrifice, lessons we can learn, pushing people to the point of leaving (and whether to encourage them to go), personal stories of Mixed-orientation vs. same-sex marriage, the parallel with race, and the parallel with polygamy (does that policy even make sense?).

And the conservative end of the CoJCoL-dS is having its own conflicts with authority:

Millennial Mormons (sorry, “Morms”, thanks to the church’s crackdown on people using the word “Mormon” in unofficial content) responded, “We are talking about people with families, not cookies with poison. And we have the support of the church on this matter.”

A great response, I thought. But the anti-compassion police weren’t having any of it. “The church is so wrong on this matter,” chimed in someone else. “We could be taking in terrorists and they could be blowing up the temples.”

In life journeys, Zina (of Zelph fame) told her story, Kiri gave an overview of his evolution, Kevin Barney has decided not to leave the church (not everyone is impressed by this — I like Kevin Barney, but I also agree that a “nuanced” view is not more respectable than a matter-of-fact view),

It was a big week for podcasts! Mormon Stories posted two that are related to some recent discussions here at MSP: and interview with an author whose book I reviewed a couple weeks ago and an interview with Alison Udall about Mormon Spectrum (I am in such agreement with her goals — I was nodding along the whole time). He also interviewed the president of the CofC, plus My Book of Mormon is back, and “the policy” has hit NPR!

Also to miss — amusing stories from a temple custodian, and Joseph Broom (“Uomo Nuovo”) is posting a memoir about the year he came out.

I hope you and your loved ones have had a lovely weekend, but either way — I hope you enjoy these Thanksgiving offerings!! 😀

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  1. Holly on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    My pleasure!

  2. chanson on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    Oh, and BTW -- thanks for inspiring this discussion and double thanks for joining in!!

  3. Holly on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    Wow. Words fail.

  4. chanson on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 10, 2026

    Regarding the contempt, I read an anecdote on some exLDS facebook group a while ago that really stuck with me:…

  5. Donna Banta on A dialog on women leaving the CoJCoL-dSAugust 9, 2026

    Great point at the end, Holly. So that was Pres. Nelson's take on "Man is that he might have joy."…

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