Skip to content
Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Sunday in Outer Blogness: The Gay Agenda Edition!!!

chanson, February 23, 2014

I am so glad to be living in the Internet age!! There is so much fun stuff that happens today that just wasn’t even possible before the Internet. Case in point, a Mormon lady posted about the gay agenda in the Disney movie Frozen — and the whole Internet blossomed with responses!!!

The main themes were the absurdity of finding gay themes in this movie, when one can just as easily find other themes, not to mention other motives on the part of the original poster. And if found, the gay agenda isn’t so bad (see this poem).

Personally, I think it’s clear that stories have messages and reasonable to want to analyze the messages in the films your children watch. I’m much happier having my kids see stories that teach that it’s OK to be different (including being gay) rather than watching stories about how it’s totally cool for the good guys to make fun of the kids who are different (i.e. the geeks and freaks deserve it, lol — they need to conform, or be ashamed if they can’t). Really, the film answers a real need in terms of female representation, but maybe we grown-ups don’t even want to watch that film or the Lego movie (I do!! but that’s me).

Then the original poster came back with the retort that haters gonna hate. Much like Mormons gotta morm.

We have some more updates on the people vs. a certain real-estate corporation, specifically how relevant is it that the contributions are voluntary. If only the modern prophets could perform BoM-style miracles! In other church-watch, academic study of Mormonism is still a bit dangerous.

Then there was a major theme about sexism in the CoJCoLd-S, how girls are taught early to please — remember girls, you are what you wear. A new Ensign article sparked discussions of the problems with modesty and holding women responsible for the actions of those they may tempt:

Because I read the Ensign. And it wasn’t even the ‘rape culture’ endorsing line of “most women get the men they dressed for” article that’s pissing off so many women, and rightly so, because hello, women are raped in military uniforms and corsets and petticoats and the burka and when they’re still young enough for their clothes to be purchased in the little kids section, and sooner or later you have to stop saying ‘boys will be boys’ and ‘she was asking for it by dressing that way’ and admit that you’re excusing your own behavior and the behavior of a whole bunch of other people where we would justifiably put down a dog if he demonstrated that level of aggression.

(And the church’s sex shaming on the other side of the equation is also pretty questionable.)

The disparity in punishment for sex-related sins is enough to make you want to leave in disgust for this alone, yet I wouldn’t be too harsh on those who have reason to stay and work on the problems.

And stuff in the outside world seems to mirror the issues we’re dealing with in Mormondom…

Now for theology and philosophy!!

Is God’s love unconditional?? Here’s one I used to ponder: “So, since Mormons are such a small drop in the bucket of the world population and much of the work that will be done during the Millenium is temple work, why bother now?” Getting information straight from God — and finding it’s not quite right (to say the least) — is still a problem (if you’re aware of it). Alex found some what not to do lessons for laywers in the BoM, and Chris found an American holiday in there!! I like Steve Bloor’s explanation of the difference between Humanism and Atheism. Jen collected faith-affirming pep quotes that stave off cognitive dissonance — cause you don’t want scientists challenging your faith about where the Sun’s light comes from.

Did you ever wonder about the intersection of President’s Day and Black History Month?

To close with some fun, Elder Young is on his way back, Roger Hansen found some joy from simple things, Mormon X is famous, the BunYon reports on paternity pants, Brandon had an amazing voyage, Knotty is stepping out in red, and hawkgrrl drew some conclusions from her weekly polls!!

Happy reading!!

Gay Agenda Homosexuality Sunday in Outer Blogness

Post navigation

Previous post
Next post

Related Posts

Sunday in Outer Blogness: Media Edition!

October 25, 2009May 17, 2011

This week we’ve seen a bit of the overlap between Outer Blogness and the rest of the media! First off, it turns out that Emily Pearson was involved in the production of 8: The Mormon Proposition (and she recommends this article about it). Also in the media spotlight (or rather…

Read More

Speaking of Family Values . . .

September 23, 2007May 17, 2011

Via Andrew Sullivan, the Republican mayor of San Diego decided that he loves his friends and his daughter enough to change his stand on gay marriage:

Read More

suicide numbers

October 15, 2010October 15, 2010

I posted HRC’s press conference video on my Facebook page and it lead to a fun debate with some Mormon friends. In that debate, someone demanded I provide “evidence” that Packer’s views lead to violence. I, of course, clarified that I didn’t say it led to direct violence against homosexuals…

Read More

Comments (2)

  1. Alan says:
    February 23, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    I can kinda see where the Frozen mom is coming from. The first X-men movies 10 years ago I saw as an allegory for queerness at the time, but of course they’re just about “accepting difference” generally. The fact that Frozen mom is seeing “gay” in this Disney film says more about her own issues presently. Messages about accepting difference are going to read like gay arm-pulling for Mormons for some time.

  2. chanson says:
    February 24, 2014 at 12:06 am

    @1 Yes, exactly.

    I think there’s been a cultural shift over the past several decades towards accepting and celebrating differences. Embracing queerness isn’t the whole story, but it’s definitely part of it. And t’s not surprising that’s the only part the “well-behaved Mormon woman” if it’s the part that touches on her own issues (some of the reddit folks linked above know the woman’s lesbian daughter.)

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Mormon Alumni Association Books

Latest Comments:

  1. Johnny Townsend on Collecting Nominations for the 2025 Brodie Awards!!December 4, 2025

    LDS (ex-LDS) fiction: Murder at the Jack Off Club by Johnny Townsend Both main characters are gay ex-Mormons. One is…

  2. Collecting Nominations for the 2025 Brodie Awards!! – Main Street Plaza on Collecting Nominations for William Law X-Mormon of the Year 2025!!!December 3, 2025

    […] Nominations are still open for X-Mormon of the Year 2025 — add your nomination here!! […]

  3. Collecting Nominations for William Law X-Mormon of the Year 2025!!! – Main Street Plaza on Congratulations 2024 X-Mormon of the Year: Nemo the Mormon!!!November 27, 2025

    […] he needs to do is make the news by getting excommunicated, like “Nemo the Mormon” did last year. […]

  4. Collecting Nominations for William Law X-Mormon of the Year 2025!!! – Main Street Plaza on Congratulations 2024 Brodie Award Winners!!!!November 26, 2025

    […] ask: “When is RFM going to win?” Well, he has won — plenty of Brodie Awards (see 2024 for…

  5. Donna Banta on A pox on the PoX policy, ten years onNovember 5, 2025

    If Oaks meant to imply anything by picking a counselor with a gay brother it was, "See, we can hate…

8: The Mormon Proposition Acceptance of Gays Add new tag Affirmation angry exmormon awards Book Reviews BYU comments Conformity Dallin H. Oaks DAMU disaffected mormon underground Dustin Lance Black Ex-Mormon Exclusion policy Excommunicated exmormon faith Family feminism Gay Gay Love Gay Marriage Gay Relationships General Conference Happiness Homosexual Homosexuality LDS LGBT LGBTQ Link Bomb missionaries Modesty Mormon Mormon Alumni Association Mormonism motherhood peace politics Polygamy priesthood ban Sunstone temple

Awards

William Law X-Mormon of the Year:

  • 2024: Nemo the Mormon
  • 2023: Adam Steed
  • 2022: David Archuleta
  • 2021: Jeff T. Green
  • 2020: Jacinda Ardern
  • 2019: David Nielsen
  • 2018: Sam Young
  • 2017: Savannah
  • 2016: Jeremy Runnells
  • 2015: John Dehlin
  • 2014: Kate Kelly
  • 2013: J. Seth Anderson and Michael Ferguson
  • 2012: David Tweede
  • 2011: Joanna Brooks
  • 2010: Monica Bielanko
  • 2009: Walter Kirn

Other Cool Sites!

WasMormon.org
©2025 Main Street Plaza | WordPress Theme by SuperbThemes