Skip to content
Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Summum Goin’ On

Robert, February 26, 2009October 20, 2010

Pleasant Grove City has won a battle in the legal war with Summum, Utah’s local pyramid/wine/sex cult. From what I’ve read, it appears that the matter is far from over, though, as this particular battle was narrowed in its scope to its free speech component. In essence, the Supremes have ruled that monuments simply aren’t speech the same way that, say, speeches are. Therefore, Pleasant Grove, in this particular case is not the referee amongst competing speakers–instead they are the speakers themselves, and having adopted and placed the ten commandments monument has made it into the city’s own speech. So you can’t prohibit their choice on free speech grounds. BUT…the issue has more clearly moved over into establishment clause turf. Which is a whole nother ball of wax altogether.

Predictably, Scalia, who would probably argue that forcing every American to wear rosary beads and say the Lord’s prayer hourly was merely an expression of our cultural roots, argues that Pleasant Grove City is in no further danger:

The city ought not fear that today’s victory has propelled it from the Free Speech Clause frying pan into the Establishment Clause fire. Contrary to respondent’s intimations, there are very good reasons to be confident that the park displays do not violate any part of the First Amendment.

Souter has a different take:

Even though…Establishment Clause issues have been neither raised nor briefed before us, there is no doubt that this case and its government speech claim has been litigated by the parties with one eye on the Establishment Clause. The interaction between the “government speech doctrine” and Establishment Clause principles has not, however, begun to be worked out.

Let the fun continue! And if the Summum folk happen to read this, can I get on your mailing list? I really want to attend your next party. Er, service.

Culture discrimination Establishment Clause Politics Religious Right Rights Supreme Court

Post navigation

Previous post
Next post

Related Posts

Community

What Fills the Void When Church Leaders Sow Division?

November 15, 2024

Tell-tale signals of Mormonism seem to be fading faster than the label President Nelson rejects. In a 2022-2023 survey, fewer than half of Church members born after 1965 said they were actually wearing their garments on the day they answered the question. A 2016 survey found that only 45% of…

Read More

Sunday in Outer Blogness: Easter Edition!

April 12, 2009September 3, 2011

Happy Easter everyone! I would do an Easter-themed roundup, but it seems not too many in Outer Blogness have blogged about it. I figure that either (like me!) they don’t have that much to say about Easter, or they’re so busy painting eggs that they don’t have time to blog….

Read More

Mormons don’t like prayer in schools, either?

March 9, 2008June 21, 2011

Does anyone remember this case: Santa Fe Independent School District v. Doe, 530 U.S. 290 (2000)? I was reading a book about the political views of Mormons and came across it. Turns out one of the “Does” in this case was a Mormon family, “The suit was filed by a…

Read More

Comments (2)

  1. Hellmut says:
    February 26, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    I am in two minds about the question whether private parties should be allowed to place monuments with religious symbols on public property.

    Usually, I am against it. But if the Veterans of Foreign Wars, for example, place a cross to remember the war dead, I would be willing to respect tradition.

  2. bloggernacleburner says:
    February 26, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    The current court is passing the buck to a future court. The issue will be decided, but evidently not on free speech grounds. The argument will be decided on establishment clause grounds

    That was one tightly written and very specific decision.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Mormon Alumni Association Books

Latest Comments:

  1. Jodi Peterson on Last Call for Nominations!!January 6, 2026

    I nominate Rebecca Bibliotheca for her coverage of LDS Temple building: Best Investigative Reporting I nominate RFM and Koloby (lol)…

  2. Rob Shiveley on Collecting Nominations for William Law X-Mormon of the Year 2025!!!January 6, 2026

    I stumbled across the YouTube channel by Kyson Dana. Really fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/@kysondana

  3. LDS Primary President Charged With Kissing Teen ! - Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup on Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!!January 6, 2026

    […] Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!! […]

  4. chanson on Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!!January 6, 2026

    Thanks for telling me! I'll fix it when I get home.

  5. Newscast Watcher on Time to Vote for X-MoOTY and the Brodie Awards 2025!!January 6, 2026

    Just so you know, the results for Best Overall LDS-Interest Social Media Personality 2025 are visible once you vote!

8: The Mormon Proposition Acceptance of Gays Add new tag Affirmation angry exmormon awards Book Reviews BYU comments Dallin H. Oaks DAMU disaffected mormon underground Dustin Lance Black Ex-Mormon Exclusion policy Excommunicated exmormon faith Family feminism Gay Gay Love Gay Marriage Gay Relationships General Conference Happiness Homosexual Homosexuality LDS LGBT LGBTQ Link Bomb missionaries Modesty Mormon Mormon Alumni Association Mormonism motherhood peace politics Polygamy priesthood ban Secularism Sunstone temple

Awards

William Law X-Mormon of the Year:

  • 2024: Nemo the Mormon
  • 2023: Adam Steed
  • 2022: David Archuleta
  • 2021: Jeff T. Green
  • 2020: Jacinda Ardern
  • 2019: David Nielsen
  • 2018: Sam Young
  • 2017: Savannah
  • 2016: Jeremy Runnells
  • 2015: John Dehlin
  • 2014: Kate Kelly
  • 2013: J. Seth Anderson and Michael Ferguson
  • 2012: David Tweede
  • 2011: Joanna Brooks
  • 2010: Monica Bielanko
  • 2009: Walter Kirn

Other Cool Sites!

WasMormon.org
©2026 Main Street Plaza | WordPress Theme by SuperbThemes